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Old 26th September 2008
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G belum menemukan ayat di Alkitab yg melarang kita berjudi. Kalau yg tau pls share.

Di negara tempat g tinggal sekarang banyak sekali dijual kupon lottery, scratch & win, judi nomor, dll, yg resmi dikeluarkan oleh pemerintah di sini. G hampir tiap minggu beli, tidak banyak sih, kurang lebih sebulan cuman habis $10 jadi tidak kecanduan.

Kalo menang kan bisa buat perpuluhan daripada yg menang bukan org Kristen uangnya dibuang ke tempat lain.

Tapi kalo dilarang oleh Tuhan ya g bisa stop..
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wew.....menurut real sendiri bagaimana?

baik ga berjudi?
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ya selama tidak kecanduan (tidak sampai bangkrut) yg boleh2 saja. Kalau menang kan berkah juga :-)
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Jangan berjudi ahhh.... tapi kadang susah ya...
banyak orang berjudi dengan cara main saham... katanya halal....
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kalo di sini kan hadiahnya jutaan $$ jadi bisa buat pensiun dan tidak khawatir akan hal dunia lagi hehehehehe...
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nah itu dia yang salah...

tujuan kita judi apa? klo kita nyari kekayaan duniawi terus ya sama aja men2kan TUHAN...mana TUHAN tuh ALLAH yang pencemburu kan?

nah salahnya lagi biasa tempat judi suka ada minuman keras,taruhan2 gitu...nah itu yang ga sehat...

klo mein saham si kegnya paling oke....semua tergantung tujuan dan motivasinya koq
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klo mein saham si kegnya paling oke....semua tergantung tujuan dan motivasinya koq
Kenapa OK ???? karena tidak ditangkap dan dianggap halal oleh pemerintah ????? tapi sama saja kan.... kalau salah beli saham... investasi hancur... kalau dapat saham bagus... kaya raya...
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hmm,susah juga ya....

kan maen saham tuh ibarat kita nanamin saham kan?


nah klo perhitungan kita meleset ya ancur...nah klo perhitungannya bagus ya kaya...trus apa yang ga ok?
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g main saham sejak tahun 1998 setelah krisis moneter. G bisa kasih kesaksian yg nyata2 dari pengalaman saya: main saham itu sama dengan JUDI, tidak ada bedanya mau dipelesetkan gimana juga.

Bahkan menurut g, mendingan beli lottery cuman $2 tapi kalau menang $3juta. Kalau kalahpun tidak ada pengaruhnya karena terlalu kecil. G sudah kapok main saham seperti ada setannya.
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ya kalo mash merasa enak or damai2 aja di hati selama 'berjudi' ya terusin aje :P lagian birapun di bilangi DILARANG pasti tar tanya balik di mana ayatnya? n blm tentu mau langsung stop .. mayan bo $2 dpt $3jt

but biasanya kalo emang dah tau 'aturan mainnya God' biar kate gak di state scara gamblang di alkitab, udah bisa ngrasain sendiri.. hehehhe mana yg iya/boleh/gak di larang or tidak/tidak boleh/dilarang
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Pantesan aja Real deman ama Choo Thomas, soalnya ajaran dia "gak papa judi, kalo bayar perpuluhan, tetep masuk sorga"
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10% dr penghasilan menang judi maksudnya ya JEd hihihiihi..
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Pantesan aja Real deman ama Choo Thomas, soalnya ajaran dia "gak papa judi, kalo bayar perpuluhan, tetep masuk sorga"
Tidak ada sama sekali di bukunya Choo memperbolehkan perjudian. Jen, lo mendingan beli/pinjam bukunya Choo, lo bakal jadi penggemarnya juga. Percaya deh!
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Tidak ada sama sekali di bukunya Choo memperbolehkan perjudian. Jen, lo mendingan beli/pinjam bukunya Choo, lo bakal jadi penggemarnya juga. Percaya deh!
Kalo Choo Thomas bilang gak boleh, trus kenapa elo masih tanya boleh judi apa enggak?

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Kalo Choo Thomas bilang gak boleh, trus kenapa elo masih tanya boleh judi apa enggak?

Eh tanya kenapa?
Dia tidak pernah menyinggung soal judi. makanya g tanya di forum ini .
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g main saham sejak tahun 1998 setelah krisis moneter. G bisa kasih kesaksian yg nyata2 dari pengalaman saya: main saham itu sama dengan JUDI, tidak ada bedanya mau dipelesetkan gimana juga.

Bahkan menurut g, mendingan beli lottery cuman $2 tapi kalau menang $3juta. Kalau kalahpun tidak ada pengaruhnya karena terlalu kecil. G sudah kapok main saham seperti ada setannya.
Coba deh untuk melihat Judi dari essensinya, bukan dari nilai nominalnya. Untuk nilai essensi Judi itu bisa dari berbagai macam referensi eg: Kamus, Wiki, dll Dan mungkin masing2 individu memiliki pandangan yang berbeda tentang nilai essensi dari Judi.

Kalau statement anda kelihatannya anda hanya melihat dari nilai nominal saja dalam konteks Saham vs Lottery.

Contoh Orang yang kaya banget < 100 milyar main saham senilai > 1 Milyar, ya kecil banget nilai nominalnya (< 1% nilai kekayaannya). Tidak akan membuat bankrut/jual rumah, dll kalau kalah

Kalau orang yang pas2 an beli kupon lottery dengan jumlah besar gimana ? Apakah nilai nominal masih bisa di pakai sebagai argument untuk menilai Saham vs Lottery dalam konteks judi ?
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